N570 vs retumbo Mar 17, 2022 #10 Retumbo would be a good substitute, in stock at lots of places in the last couple weeks. Thread starter Vol1975; Start date Jan 12, 2020; Help Support Long Range Hunting Forum What powder are you guys Lovin' for the 6. 75 to 1 moa. His velocitys were swinging with the temp changes from morning to afternoon throwing off his dope and he got tired of trying to adjust for it so he just stuck with retumbo. I don't like the format of the powder burn charts at the upper end of the lists. H1000, retumbo, N570, rl 26, magnum powders. Is worth about 50-75 fps additional velocity over H1000 and Retumbo with the same components. Now the N565 is also a good choice. I agree that if you do it, buy enough for the barrel and run it. Joined Jan 10, 2015 Messages 127 Reaction score 11 Points 18. Joined May 2, 2004 Messages 2,222 Retumbo, or IMR 8133 . I have a decent stockpile, but always looking for new load data. I know Retumbo shot it a little more then H1000 but not much started at 72gr - 2701fps 77. Just tried it for the first time today. 3 grains at 2707 fps. For barrel life. Joined Sep 19, 2016 Messages 30 Location East Texas. N570 177 hammers Might have a lead on some N570, doing some research it seems like 869 is very temp sensitive and N570 was about 100-120fps faster at the same pressure and produced the best groups at max charge but the es wasnt the best and groups were . Of the N5XX powders the N565 is likely the best suited for the 7prc. Powders include H1000, N565, H4831SC, RL23, and Retumbo. (bad on throats) H50BMG and 24n41. Below was today test load of N570 82 gr . 5gr - 2815fps 1/2 MOA ES 23-38 going to test groups of H1000 vs N570 and see what it like at distance. We used the N560 and RS80 for 338LM. Dec 24, 2018. Joined Jan 10, 2013 My 26 inch 9 twist likes them just over 3100fps with RL 26 and N570. 030” OL 2. But surely is a slower burn rate. but thats why I bought 2 rifles. 28 Nosler Custom HCA carbon killer 26" hca 1/8" twist Peterson Brass 195 berger EOL 78. Joined Mar 7, 2013 350gr SMK's looking to use powders on hand RL33 RL50, Retumbo, H50, 375 CBE lasers looking to use powders on hand RL33 RL50, Retumbo, H50, Thanks Vince . Home. From what I have read, N560 is not as temperature insensitive as N565 and N570. 300 WM is H1000/215 Berger but I also know he is a bigfan of the N570. Sep 2, 2018 #11 C. He's got half a dozen 28Nos and they're all tack drivers. I have two questions here. Downside: it is a bit temp sensitive, and ES/SD can What’s everyone using for their 300 PRC? Plan to use: Lapua brass CCI 250 Hornady 212 ELDX I use H4350 in my 300 WM This is for an AXMC with a 1/9 twist 27” Win Tac barrel I’m currently reading through the past threads Any input on N570 vs RL33? I just put a 30” 300 RUM together, but taking it back apart to make the throat even shorter so I can get ON the lands if need be fed from a Wyatt’s detachable magazine. Jan 6, 2023 #7 Yoteklr Well-known member. Joined Apr 13, 2015 Messages 115. N565 was developed specifically for military sniping applications and 250 grain bullet weight loads for the . Does anyone have the latest load data from Hornady (manual) about. Reactions: JTH, muleystalker, parshal and 1 other person. RELOAD SWISS: This new high quality brand from Switzerland offers two new powders: RS12 (for IPSC) and RS36. I’m no help to @mtmuley as I have leaned on mostly h1000 in most of my magnums. Oct 16, 2022 #3 georgelza Member. The kernels are like broken #2 pencil lead. Be patient, someone might share their recipe. N570 is sold to @MonsterMuley31 pending a meet up on 7/15 Retumbo is still available. First Prev 2 of 3 Go to page. Personally. Now I build rifles based on if H1000 will work. I'm stopping Anyone have any experience shooting 215 Bergers ad N570 in the 300 RUM? I am running 230 Bergers at 3165 with N570 and no pressure in my 300 RUM. but I'm interested in the 8133 Vs n570. Donate. It seems the cartridges in Hodgdon's guide lists a higher charge weight vs Retumbo without a compressed load. N570 not easy to find either. Switchback2 Well-Known Member. Oct 27, 2019 #15 I think you flipped Retumbo for N570. I settled on 66. Sierra Tipped Game King (Gamechanger bullet). There is lots of retumbo. BrentM Well-Known Member. 66 FPS per degree. Apr 25, 2018. May 15, 2020 N570 is a popular powder but is temp H1000, Retumbo, N570. Did find some Viht N565 and it's inbound, but I'm I really like N570 in my 6. H1000 was very accurate, but lowest velocities of all powders I tried in my gun. Some of the powders they tried were StaBALL HD, Magnum, LRT, Retumbo, H4831, & IMR7828SSC. Latest Did some searching and up here n570, rl33 and retumbo are about the same per pound, but rl33 is the hardest to get. 120" FB. 5-284 Win and 8133 in my 28. New: High Energy powder N565. 0 grs Retumbo, Remington brass, Fed 215M, and . New posts Search forums. Reactions: Calvin45, WYO300RUM, TXTrained and 3 and recommend H870 (no longer manufactured) in his . Mar 24, 2023 #9 B. Powder N570 for retumbo. Retumbo is barely larger than H1000 kernels. Dec 29, 2021 #3 sam Active member. Also, as expected no such data for 300wsm but does list Staball 6. A 156 at 3000 would be terrific. Looked at a couple of resources like Hodgdon website and GRT, but they didn’t list the Berger 245s. Hours of internet reading later, I have discovered they don’t make powder. For now I’m sticking with N570. This was a I have plenty of N570 and Retumbo and I should be able to match the velocity or maybe even get a little more, but will I see any improvement in accuracy with these powders? I used Retumbo in the Rums for years and it produced better velocity than h1000 with respectable es. 315", right at 3,000 fps (30 deg. 338 NORMA MAG. hawkinsprecision. Western Powder's web site says LRT is similar to Retumbo, and they say Retumbo is similar to H870. My speed is around 2990 avg with 25" barrel. Reactions: Countrykang8, KH_Outdoors, lancetkenyon and 2 others. Joined Feb 24, 2012 I have n570 and 568 to try once my barrel appears . The N568 rifle powder The most recent heavy-weighter in our N500 rifle powder series is the N568. Joined Nov 25, 2018 Messages 126 Location New Mexico. Your notes make me think I N570 really woke mine up but I could feel the throat burning with every shot lol, h1000 and 26 gave me similar results and Retumbo shot the largest groups of the bunch by a fair margin. Thatonekid; Apr 24, 2018; Replies 1 Views 1K. Retumbo vs RL33 vs VVN570. And N570 is 2 grains more than H1000. Feb 24, 2021 I have a lot of Retumbo powder for my 375 Chey Tac and am about to start load development on a 338 LM Savage I just picked up with a 1:9 twist. idaho here told me ther retumbo is being snagged up by the military s contract. 5 SAUM Hbn coated 156 EOL load is using 61. Both for accuracy, ES spread and speed. If you’re not hung up on the N5XX powders, Retumbo might also be worth a shot. I also have some 205 bergers I was considering with H1000 but haven’t Retumbo vs imr 8133 are supposed to be similar. I switched to it in my 300 RUM. thanks to all! The main reason I changed to N570 initially was that, retumbo seemed to "spike" in pressure once you got to a certain threshold. No groups that gave me any hope, little disappointing. 0721. LRH Supporter. 611″ group, mild As it stands today, we’re quite happy with 3240FPS and very consistent accuracy in a 24″ barrel. It lists H1000 close to Retumbo. Just wondering why it's not more popular. I bought a 300PRC which I can’t really load with my existing powder. 047 off lands). With all that has happened in the past You guys should try retumbo for bullets around the 350gr weight in the CT. I have n570 h1000 and retumbo on hand. That bullet is a killer. Also. I've been searching a little on HD. Attachments. 5 moa and good es numbers. Thread starter 300winnie; Start date Feb 15, 2022; Feb 15, 2022 #1 3. I tried 869, RL33, LRT, 20N29 and Retumbo but just couldn’t get velocity and accuracy I was looking for. 0 grain interval. TriggerTime426 Well-Known Member. You can’t always have your cake and eat it Has anyone had experience running Retumbo in a 28 Nosler? I was running N570 but am running out. Recent Posts. retumbo, N570, rl 26, Retumbo worked best for me pushing 190 a tips at 3100 fps. 9 gr N560. Reactions: huntinghuasna, HawkinsPrecision, JAYgs8163 and 2 The Retumbo will be used in a 7mm rm 24" inch barrel with a 162 gr projectile. 300 PRC with the 225 Grain ELD-M. 5 MOA groups, just a little I was about to start development for a 28nos, N570, 195 EOL. It’s a 26” length barrel, 1 in 9” twist. 765) and with zero pressure am getting 3115 for the 195. Retumo has been an all around winner for me in several cartridges. H50 is too slow and works better once you hit the 377gr or heavier (like the MTAC/Laser). After a few months of shooting the course he switched back to his retumbo Load at around 3000fps. browning442 Well-Known Member. There is no doubt in my mind I could achieve 3,300 fps with this powder if I wanted to. I have been running Retumbo and Norma 217 with excellent results at the upper end node. On a 24" barrel with N570/195 EOL's seeing 2930-2940's. I'm located in Butte, MT Click to expand Rocky Mountain Discount Sports in Cody Wy. My thought is to focus on what powders are made in Forums. (7mm Rem, 300 WM , 300 PRC) If that is a wrong assumption someone please correct me. For . 5gr N570 ADG cases Fed 215mag A little over . What do you like about N570 vs LRT that you'd stay with N570? Slightly more velocity? Last edited: Oct 21, 2021. This was a compressed load, 104%. R. I run N570 & 180s in my stw. I've got N570 and could push them faster, but there seems to be a point of diminishing returns with ELD's, push them too fast and the on-game performance may suffer. VV N570 is however sufficiently progressive burning that it produces near top velocities in many applications. Here are my thoughts. Clicker was now gone, primer looks great, and the rifle seemed to recoil smoother. Want to give it a try in the 264 win mag Search. Capt RB. Due to the large kernel size (similar to 24N41 and 20N29), we recommend you to always weigh your N570 charges rather than relying on throws from powder measures, as they do not always deliver consistent charges. Featured content New posts New profile posts Latest activity. Jul 25, 2017 Some context: Have a switch barrel short action MPA BA rifle in 6. 7977 is pretty close to 1000 and 8133 is closer to Retumbo. It is a 1/8 twist and I'm looking to shoot both the 250 A-Tips as well as the 245 EOLs. Stay tuned for this, as well as additional bullet testing 66. Mar 2, 2023 #2 NV HUNTER WKR. 8 except the magic RL-26 Pixie Dust. I got pressure with all of the powders as velocity approached 2,800 FPS. Mar 9, 2018 #12 I'd really like to see what the new Enduron 8133 will do with this cartridge. In a nutshell Any slow burner that he can find, lol. 100" off lands (don't have book in front of me). Reactions: danj and 338 dude. ŠczYçæùD«mÜ‘498Ñjµ‰¦Lv«ˆïÅ µa0$_x-×x^`š¤ÓspU&ðK[ b :ÔEÆ Txð”5M¶á , Éæï{¥Ó} ¨CÙ —g©« ?À¹N¿ W s|ú¸Nû ª íM0ñ$›‰÷r–¨W ÖÿÂú Å©ˆ“ƬiÔ I dont have any 156s yet but have always gotten best velocities and acceptable es using retumbo in my 6. snowcreekkennels Well-Known Member. I talked to berger the other day and they had the best velocities for the prc and 284 with Want #154 Retumbo (can't find) Maybe sub with #151 RL26 or #156 N570 Any thoughts, suggestions that you may have if you own any of the three builds listed for powders used and load data. I don't believe it is. I’ve been looking at imr 8133, and n570 but of course can’t get my hands on any . 0713 so these extruded powders take up more volume per grain of powder than the spherical ball powders. The said dont hold my breath for it. Stopped buying it because (1) I hate it's smell on each shot, (2) it cost an arm and a leg compared to Retumbo (which I did not get to shoot as well), and (3) I started seeing unburned kernels in my cases on ejection -- a WTH moment. Any idea what this powder is supposed to do that N565 or N570 doesn't? Aside from saying 6. Since my barrel was already slow, I moved on. Settled on h1000 over rl26 since I've got a bunch and I use the 26 in my 7 saums. I'm just curious whether anyone can say if 570 might be a closer match to R33 for velocities than what Retumbo typically is, for example. 5-300’s but as others said it can be rough on throats. iplan on shooting 230 My best results with precision, ES/SD, and velocity with the 230 in the RUM came with N570. That being said I’m having pretty good results with the N570. The flame temp is hotter than H1000. As good as this load shot (1/4-1/2 moa precision with ease). Collected a fair amount among with N,565. Reactions: Lancetkenyon, nomrcynd, Broz and 3 others. N570 is a high energy powder and is said to be harder on barrels. I use Retumbo with 153 A-Tips in my 6. Great speeds with 180s in 7 stw. It's touted as being temp stable, but I haven't its test temp stability to verify. 8 western really decent velocity with 175 grain bullets. Retumbo is cooler burning too. If I try it later, I’ll add it. I'm trying to get to 2950 fps with Berger 156 eols. Retumbo vs H1000. I’ve got 19 pounds of If this new N568 turns out to be something like a short cut N570 I think you will see a lot of happy campers. Thread starter motrapper; Start date Feb 15, 2022; Help Support Long Range Hunting Forum Become a supporting member. I used H1000 and Retumbo in years past, Retumbo gave the speed and H1000 gave the single digit es and tiny vertical. 020" off. Reply. wapitibob said: not my load Retumbo (have) 2736 fps 104. My 30 nosler is getting accuracy @ 3050 w/ H1000, 3125 w/ N570 or RL26. Currently testing 180VLD, also picked up a few boxes of 180 ELD-M. Feb 15, Might get better velocity with retumbo but as I understand it H1000 can be a bit cleaner and more consistent as well as temp insensitive. I remember 15 years or so ago, alot of folks didn't like it for some reason. 695” just enough to feed from my HS mag. Had H1000 but gone. I've always liked h1000 and retumbo. H1000 in this rifle was . 594 OAL Sub half MOA to 500 **Would not try this load in Hornady brass. I would try the H1000 loads first. 230 Berger over N570 @ 2917fps in a 24” barrel. I have enough Retumbo to load 20 rounds at 77-78gr and I found a pound of H-1000 in my stash of powders but the load data says to not go above 77-78gr and that will achieve 2900. B. 0 grains, the difference from the retumbo load was astounding. Oct 8, 2019 #1 As title says. Joined Apr 27, 2017 Messages 447 Reaction score 273 After some searching and deduction, I'm thinking slower than Retumbo. Reactions: Rooster22 and Ladd. Reactions: elkguide and Yote Klr. RL33 and N570 ran neck and neck velocity wise, but I got the most consistent velocity with 570. Dec 22, 2021 #12 I decided to develop a load for my TRG with the Hornady 285 ELD-M and Retumbo , and settled on the longest feed-able length I could make work reliably - 3. I just N170 Retumbo Magnum N570 RS80 SP 13 24N41 H50BMG 20N29 US 869 D100 VIHTAVUORI: Offers a wide range of popular powders for all burning rates. ADG brass SD is consistently under 5 fps and es is always in single digits. Click to expand I'd generally agree with this, though using a 250gr ATip down a 24" barrel using N565 just not going to happen, where ass that load as a load guide is perfect for a 26-28" with Retumbo or N570?. Same for RL33 which would also be sensitive to temps. 8133 is darn near the same burn rate as N570. These two poders are prefered and used in Shooting 338 LMAI with good results. I got 2950 with h4831sc, it's the gold standard powder for the 6. Mar 17, 2022 I'm thinking retumbo would create a little more speed than H1000 but I don't have any. If you want a laser beam elk crusher, N570 is your ticket I've built a couple of the 7 prc's now and have reached 3000 fps with 180gr Berger's with both N565 and Retumbo in 24" barrels. It makes a truly So is Retumbo. 300WinMag it should be similar. H-1000 is . I got the base line data from Vihtavuori's load center. Thankfully, I've got nearly every powder advertised for the 6. Between Rl 26 and the N570 can any body give me their thoughts on which powder they prefer. 5 fps. Especially brownells, which is in stock currently. of 565, 16 lbs. wapitibob WKR. Joined Jun 21, 2017 Messages 497 Location nv. Posted by Timothy Meade on Sep 23rd 2024 This powder was very accurate in my 6. I'm saving the N570 for monolithic's. I have not found the two to be anywhere close to each other in how operate. I’m running 7977 in my sons 6. I setup a ladder test with retumbo but I got alot of pressure into the second group and a 2" spread so I just canned that ladder For example, N165 is a very cool burning powder but n570 is on the hot end of the spectrum. C. My opinion is that N570 is the best powder for 200+ grain 300 win mag and other 30 magnums. 6gr Vihtavuori N570: 3240FPS/17. If you want more speed than use N570 with the 230's and you will see about 3000-3040. Post your results and we will help you out. Will try the 230s and if they shoot starting with H 1000 and go to VV N570 2x 1 pound bottles same lot asking $100 for both 1x 8 lb jug asking $350 All N570 for $425 Retumbo 5x 1 pound bottles asking $300 for all 5 - two of the Retumbo bottles are sold, three are still available as of July 30th for $180 for all three. TXAoudadKlr Well-Known Member. I'm a big Vihtavuori fan (it's always been the most consistent from day to day for me), but I'm a little disappointed in the size of the kernels Don't have the rifle anymore and didn't keep the load info so I can't post exactly what the difference was but going off memory I lost 10fps off extreme and 4fps off standard going to N570 vs Retumbo. Reason I bring this up is I really would prefer to run Retumbo (temp stability) vs the RE33. My current loads with RL33 are very good I decided to mine the 300 PRC thread in the ELR subforum for handload data ahead of starting to work up a load for my rifle, working backwards from recent posts. I had always used Retumbo. The bullet mass is going to have a direct impact on the recoil. N568 excels with heavy-for-caliber projectiles and provides Retumbo in 7mm RM with 160-180gr bullets is an awfully hard combo to beat. 5PRC with good results. I haven't even tried it yet in new barrel ! N570 was so accurate and low ES and SD. You would need to stick with N555, RL26, H4350, RL23, RL16. Reactions: 338 dude. Some customers dont N series powders, only have a certain kind at home for later, or some rifles are finicky wenches and like I used N570 in my 338LM and then 338 Edge. Currently using RL 26 in a 22” barrel, longer barrels may favor the slower powders listed. IMR 8133 is advertised as being temp stable, but that appears to be more marketing than fact. Thread starter TXAoudadKlr; Start date May 11, 2016; Help Support Long Range Hunting Forum Become a supporting member. Reactions: Broz. 5 Retumbo. 0g of N560 at 2800 fps at 0. I was able to snag 6 pounds of N570 locally. Retumbo and N570. N570 was close to 100 fps faster. F ambient temp) muzzle velocity (measured, about 25 fps less than what QuickLoad predicted). I'd start at 88 grains Ive run H1000, H4831sc, Retumbo, N560, N565 and N570 in the 7prc. So the N570 vs. The powders are produced by Nammo Vihtavuori Oy. SOLD - Reloder 26 (RL26) 5x 1 pound bottles all same lot Asking $300 for all 5 So I will update todays tests with the 195 Berger EOL's and Retumbo powder and N570 temp-50 degrees 24% humidity Altitude- 6000' 28 Nosler 1:9 twist 24" barrel Bertram Brass/Fed215 MG Primers/ Berger 195 EOL All results with LABRADAR Retumbo N570 80. No N570 or RL26. Still working on this, searching high and low for RL25 or 26 powder. from what I've picked up the last couple of months reading non stop I started using it because in 375CT 350 grain bullet category it gave about 50-75 fps faster than Retumbo and shot just as well or better. Joined Mar 28, 2020 Messages 179 Location Hull IA. Takman Well-Known Member. The kernels are too LARGE. Comparing 6. RL33 is pretty close to n570 on the spectrum. Search titles only By: Search Advanced search Search titles only I know that BROZ go to powder/bullet combo in his . com Reply. Sykes Well-Known Member. of H1000 and way too much R23 along with a bit of Retumbo and R26. did a quick 5 shot test group with 96. I'll just try those in the 300 PRC. N565: (NEW FOR 2018!) Designed to fill the gap between N560 and N570. Not those Tic-Tacs of N570! I was running Retumbo Better extreme temp protection than N570. I'm building a 300 PRC as we speak. N570 is better for longer barrels and heavier bullets. Does anyone know where I can get some, strategy to finding some or have a pound or two they are willing to part with? I don’t even mind paying more than Get access to live stream, lessons, the post exchange, and chat with other snipers. 740” 2915 FPS average 78. 743" ( 0. Hello all, I recently did some testing with N570 in my Savage 110BA 338 Lapua. 676 CBTO 3. Info on the 245s has been a bit scarce from PRC shooters thus far. Don't get me wrong, I got great accuracy and consistent velocities with it, but when I got the upper end of the pressures, I'd have primers blowing out, and crazy bolt lift problems. Joined Feb 18, 2016 Messages 285. Good availability. IMR 8133. 73. First things first I used Lapua Brass FL sized, Winchester LRM primer (the only ones I could find), and 250gr SMKs. I live in KC, so the Hodgdon HQ is close. 215s should do better than 3000 in your rifle w/ N565 or N570. Looking for loads and velocity with N570 and RL26 in a 300 PRC with 225's and 215's, or similar weights. In all that and all that Ive done I was just saying 560 was a walk off as far as consistently giving accuraccy and the upper end of speed. BB401 Active Member. So I have a fierce rival carbon xp 24 in barrel waiting on delivery. Am in the process of trying to get my hands on some 195's for my Firebird, and seriously considering N570 as a powder instead of Retumbo. 434 COAL 2954 fps ave . Please see the picture below of the 94. Mar N570 tops out at 75. If you want a temp stable powder in the same slow magnum burn rate, H1000 and Retumbo are what's available. It seems to have more sensitivity than the other V V's listed. Jan 21, 2024; Thread Starter #3 OP . After He was using a 28Nosler running the 195s at 3070fps with RL33. Joined Jun 1, 2004 Messages 925 Location Worland, Wyoming. In the future I would like to use 300 Norma or 300 WIn mag in the gain twist (15"-9") and 230 A-tip. Learn how six different powders work in Hornady's new 7 PRC. I want to make full use of the barrel switching / caliber switching capabilities of the rifle system, and get a new barrel in the largest possibly 300 cal magnum cartridge It appears to me more like n570 only you can put more in the case . I get great velocities with it out of my Sherman and also out of a 22-284. It's 100 fps faster than H1000, 75 more than Retumbo, and 50 more than 8133. Sand Man Well-Known Member. About $50/pound. Retumbo and H1000 were selected as the powder for follow up testing. 5 - 2886fps ejector mark. You could get more N170 in the case with the normal sized kernels. Get access to live stream, lessons, the post exchange, and chat with other snipers. At 118-125g of powder per shot, at just under 900 rounds, the throat is done again, this was the I know this question will likely cause 50% of readers to pop a vessel, but I have been reading a lot into gunpowder manufacturing. 5x284s with the berger 140s. Nosler ABLR, 170 Nos BT and 175 gr. Has anyone tried N560 or Retumbo with the 156 Berger as I have both of these powders. Really appreciate the feedback. So I'm not sure if it really is more bulky. 5gr retumbo 2,940 FPS ADG Brass Winchester Large Rifle Magnum Primer 3. I can see how it can be possible if You have with H1000 3000fps and with N570 3200 fps. Is an ideal choice also for such cartridges as the 7mm REM MAG, . I loaded 50 of these for further testing but my last 10 ate the bullseye out of a Retumbo was getting hard to get before the Covid hit and and now its **** near impossible!!!. If neither comes available by the time I get the rifle it will be retumbo (µ/ý XTæ jãZˆD0Ef ÀÀÀÀÀ@U º`íø¶¥”ºE®h Ú$‰ÜéÉGœbÜ ™«ªÖåÊŒjYsï·|ßo»ýíWoŸ¹³½¤¡ Á % Y ¥ ß¿µÅÔ›ÒYjÜùˆê¾O² Å g¦ÖfŠóÔÞ¦. 0 grains of n570 to check for velocity consistency. 8 Western using 165 gr. TxLite WKR. I would like to hear about specific experiences and load testing with Retumbo in this caliber and if there was a Good luck finding N570, I've been watching every site I can find and local stores for months with no luck. 5 prc. Long range accuracy (700- 1050 yards) has been good with Retumbo. 5 vs 7 vs 30. The H1000 may ultimately have a longer barrel life, but it doesn’t offer the velocity that you are getting with N570. Next Last. If you can round up more H1000 I would try it. longrangehunting. H1000 debate is less important of a factor. I just bought 32 lbs of H1000 the same week N570 came Magpro performance VS Retumbo H1000 RL26. Running 92 gr of Retumbo with 215 gr VLD’s, GM215M primers and Nosler brass. I have tried rl26, 23, h1000, h4831sc, retumbo, n560, n565, n570 in the 3 rifles I have had. IMR Enduron 7977 or 8133. I just got 2 lbs of N-570 from Powder Valley and all I can say is this is the worst handling powder I've ever dealt with. I use N570 (but not in 28 nosler) In my test from -5 to 23 Celsius it moves 2. Barehandlineman11 Well-Known Member. I would like to see how n570 would do in the 7mm RM but I'm saving it for a 300 Norma that I should have finished in a couple weeks. Its a slower burn rate powder than Retumbo. Menu. Below pressure. N570 has huge kernels and is a pita to get into a case mouth without bridging and would not throw in any powder thrower I tried. DENWA. Testing included varying the seating depth and powder charges. I'd consider it the best substitute available. Joined Nov 20, 2021 Messages 1,731. deadwolf WKR. I’m guessing either H-1000 or Retumbo will be the top contenders for powder but I also have IMR-7828, Magnum, and N565. It makes excellent velocities in magnums and meters great since it is a ball powder. RL33, N570, IMR8133, H1000 all work well too. i have hunt to africa leaving march 24th and find myself out of my prefered n570 for my 28 nosler loads anybody in the everett/seattle area willing to trade a lb of n570 for a lb of retumbo? contact Allan at 425 422 0104. D. curtiscd Well-Known Member. Thread starter Barehandlineman11; Start date Sep 1, 2020; Help Support Long Range Hunting Forum Become a supporting member Usually if you have a H1000 load, Retumbo is another grain. 0 grains N570 COAL 3. From what I am seeing, the N570 is being in a lot of the Magnums. RS Magnum or ACC Magpro might replace RL 26 or Retumbo RS LRT or ACC 8700 might replace N570 ETC. Joined Oct 10, 2016 Messages 165. Last edited I know the vast majority of data out there suggests n570, but have have a bunch of Retumbo and wondering if it’s slow enough to work. of 570, 8 lbs. 3 n570 coal 3. Seems as if the N570 is dirty though compared to H1000 and Retumbo. It’s pretty sensitive especially to warmer temps. 300winnie Member. Joined Jul 4, 2022 Messages 155 Well, I haven't been able to find any Retumbo and have now read that this might be a newer and better Retumbo. So throat erosion is more with N570. I have done exactly what your thinking but for a 28 Nosler. And at a decent price I think. I wondered where the make their powder. Woo Boy! You will get some opinions on this one. I know N570 is the powder, and he's shooting 195s out of one of his MOA rifles. 5 - 3047 3090 Ok, from time to time, we have discussed substitutes for Retumbo, and substitutes for Varget, etc. DoubleGobble00 said: That would be nice to test I’d like to try retumbo also. I recently ran across a small reloading shop that had 10lb of n570, so I bought it all. Mar 17, 2022 #9 35WhelenAI WKR. H4831sc also shot 0. @SOIHUNT I will be working in Tucson 7/16 casa grande 7/17 then where traveling our equipment. as great as re33 might be, its non existent in bulk form unless you are already stocked up pre-covid. Joined Mar 2, 2011 Messages 1,329 Location It just makes sense that you got more velocity from N570 than Retumbo with less pressure. I'm looking for the 3 ghosts, H1000 Retumbo or N570. Plenty of load data between my 3 apps to safely work up. Joined Feb 21, 2014 Messages 1,737 Location I have an 8lb jug of N570 and was curious if anyone has experience using this with some 180 class Berger’s in the 7prc. Any preferences between the two? Why? Any recipies to share? Thanks! I just loaded N568 behind a Sierra Game King 175-grain 7mm bullet in a 7mm Rem Mag with a 26" barrel. 0 n570 load vs the 92. Lonewolf74; Nov 29, 2017; Replies 11 Views 11K. Do you tip your game processor. Reactions: Ironworker. May 19, 2019 #6 hseII Member. The slow burning characteristics and short-cut grains of Vihtavuori N568 high energy gun powder provide extremely consistent metering for long range competitive shooters, accuracy enthusiasts, and hunters alike. I recently found an 8 lbs jug of Retumbo and I figured if it worked out I would have enough to finish this barrel off with one load since I haven't found N570 in a while. 2800 will probably be all she does, especially in Hornady brass, adg might get 2850-2875 top end. Colder temps it’s been okay. Joined Nov 2 The main distributor in n. 5 Tetumbo powder. this is why I bring the question up* But temp increase 20 degrees and the load is now off it’s node. I see it costs a couple more dollars. I will get on a waiting list for bolth rl33 and n570 and whichever one comes in first will get the nod. 0 - 3030 X 80. 9 gr N560 in the 2825-2850 range for 250 gr www. N570 is hard to come by. Swamplord Well-Known Member. Looking to buy . There seems to be really good results and lots of info using 565, and H 1000. had an es Forums. Which of the above is the least temp 82. 5859D841-072D-43F3-AD44-5A6BC568BA6F Hype was that N568 was a short cut N570 but from everything I'm seeing and reading, N570 produces higher velocities. CA ridgeline, 26” barrel, lapua brass. Mar 6, 2024 #2 D. Jun 18, 2020 I shoot . N568 and N570 were the most sensitive varying 1. The speed from n570 is nice if it shoots but in my rifle, with that bullet it was a no go. I settled at 82. I have I started using it because in 375CT 350 grain bullet category it gave about 50-75 fps faster than Retumbo and shot just as well or better. On 20" barrel Thanks for the N570 load data Huntnful! We have very similar rifles. I tried HD Staball, N560, H4831sc, and Retumbo. May revisit as barrel appears to be speeding up now with a little over a hundred rounds on it. Or if anyone has a dirty little source for Retumbo, RL33, or N570 lol. Both powders seemed to have an accuracy node at the same FPS. Feb 1, 2021 #12 Desert Dan Well-known member. Articles. 338 Lapua. I did not get to shoot any of the Retumbo, H1000, or N565 loads because I had a case head separation on the last N560 round that measured 2945 fps with 86. Any data on other powders would be awesome too Thanks My 6. I bet my local place can get 570, and I know they have 8133. I can not see how N570 can fry barrel a lot faster that H1000 if they have same velocity. Is one better than another? Which is more temperature stable? Using in 26 and 28 nosler. Both RL 26 and N570 did not perform well for this bullet. I have to get my load developed before elk season. S. I'm stopping because I'm now shooting 390s and they like RL50 - but I'm also going back to Retumbo for the 350s because: harder than heck to get - no news Reloader 26 Reloader 25 H1000 Retumbo Ramshot Magnum N570 Looking at reaching 2800 FPS in my 26" . Feb 17, 2022 #17 A. Thats really the advantage of the Hodgdon Extremes. Dec 1, 2017. Even Retumbo or IMR8133 would be close. N565 is similar to H1000 and is better for shorter barrels (< 26") and lighter bullets. Excellent velocity and accuracy, was my go-to powder for a while. 6gr of N570 for 220gr bullets. 143 over SAAMI, ~0. even at the highest load of 94. I'll be using a 27" 9 twist 5R barrel. motrapper Well-Known Member. Joined May 18, 2020 Messages 721 Reaction score 803 Points 93 Hey there all, I’m a hunter and getting into some longer range shooting. Joined Sep 6, 2018 Messages 2,050 Location Texas. 4 lbs retumbo $230 No Shipping Terrebonne Oregon 97760. Smokenaces Well-Known Member. 26” pipe with 1-10” twist and bullets seated to 3. Hornady also has data, and RL25 looks fastest, followed by N560, RL26, & H1000. 5 CM, with the West Texas Ordnance SwitchLug system. Along with Retumbo and Reloder 26, we will leave the N570 load development for a future day when we have abundant supplies. Also looking to trade H4350, I’m putting together a 7 WSM for a deer hunt over Christmas break. In Trying to decide on a powder for 300 gr projos for the . CharlGous New member. Temp stable, less copper fouling and more Home. 0 retumbo case. gillettehunter. I think I fully mined that thread as of today (11/27/19) but if I missed any please plug them in or post your own load data. 20N29 was the most accurate but couldn’t get more than about 3150FPS out I'm running H1000 in mine with the 212 eld-x and getting great groups. So it sounds like my best ball powder 3220 fps ES 7fps packs a wallop on swamp donkeys sounds like its close to retumbo I've got 8 lbs. Narrowed it down to Retumbo and us 869. Retumbo is what we used in the 7 PRC for the Nightforce ELR match, and it shot great under the 190 grain Hornady A-Tip bullet. Nov 28, 2019 #5 Thanks for all of the feedback. What's new. just got 4 cases of Retumbo. I'm heavily dependant on retumbo. Anyone have data that they have gotten that fps with these powders? I'm at 600 ft elevation Been trying for the past couple of months to score some H1000 (son's coming home on leave from the AF in a couple weeks, and needs an ELR fix) but I've been too slow on the draw despite Discord and checking every damn site several times a day. Aug 5, 2021 #70 J2shooter Well-known member. Lapua Brass, CCI 250 primers. com Out of curiosity though I did some modeling in Quickload. Bullet mass and impact velocity should be heavily considered when choosing a cartridge. SeabeeKen. 300PRC or . Was going to start with 78 and go up in . 6 grains, COAL 3. If rl26 doesn't get me over 2950 accurately I'll stick with H1000 at 2900. I'm pushing 215 Bergers at 3240 fps. Bfish22 Lil-Rokslider. Maybe also look into N570. I can keep single digit SDs while ES, precision, and velocity all go up with magnum primers and N570. 65WSM Well-Known Member. N570 was faster but groups weren’t as consistent. The correct choice will ensure ethical kills at your maximum range. This testing was for speed and not for accuracy I was going for the 3000fps with the 250. 30 Sherman mag+P and 30-338 Lapua Imp are using N570, I wouldn't think N568 wouldn't come close in those. Retumbo – Solid Choice for 190s. 338 LAPUA Magnum. Neither of those meter for crap though. Prev. Joined Sep 2, 2019 Messages 2,374 Location Komifornia. Did some more RL26 H1000 or Retumbo. Ive never seen r26 so I dont believe it exists. H4831sc was the most accurate and consistent, retumbo was a very close second. I just picked up 2 8lb jugs of n570 and didn’t have Initial testing for the 250-grain bullet showed Retumbo providing initial group of 1 moa while H1000 provided 1 moa over 2. 5 at impressive velocities. Joined Nov 12, 2021 Messages 96 Reaction score 45 Its too slow as is N570 and N565 is on the edge. T. My findings were that it was very comparable to N570 with temp stability They are grain for grain equivalent for pressure/velocity. Swapping over to the 168 LRX and my H1000 was just delivered today so will likely start load development there. Retumbo and n570. I've been through lots of data (what's out there) N560 N565 RL-26 Retumbo H1000 Previously I have had velocities for 84. IMR 8133 vs N570. is a little slow for this combination. 30-06, 300 WIN MAG, 300 NORMA MAG as well as the . N570 is the bulkiest powder I have used. Big jump, but seating test didn't give me enough to justify single loading at . N570 is the slowest of our high-energy powders and is an extruded, tubular powder type with grain dimensions of 2,3 mm length and 1,3 mm diameter. I have been using Retumbo with the 195s but recently ran out. You might try RL33 for grins too. I have found that N570 is on par with retumbo as far as load data. I seat my bullets long, so I am able to run more powder than most 338 Lapua's. 5-284 Norma, which is the sweet spot for the cartridge. Like to try it in a 300 rum with 230 bergers soon. If you want a bit more barrel life, slow them down and go H1000. 9% fill volume 73gr max charge 100% burnt R26 (don’t have) 2737 fps 93% fill volume Running 80g of N570 with 195 Bergers but I only have a few pounds of N570 left and based on the length of my last backorder I am saving it. If thats the case the others like h1000 will be in higher demand unfortunately. 257 Allen Magnum. Here's 30 Nosler. Berry228 Well-Known Member. Interested in your findings. 300 norma improved are getting 2950-3000 and that has 10gr more powder capacity. Both are temp stable. experience with loads in the 30 cal range in the 300 win or 30 Nosler case capacity pushing 180 to 215 bullets. AbeC86 Member. Mar 24, 2023 #4 W. Defensive Edge. I have a some RL26, RL33 and a couple pounds of Retumbo to experiment with. It may be harder on barrels than another powder like H1000, but that’s just a side effect of high energy powders. 83. Click to expand I am about to start load development with the 300 prc running 199 gr hammer hunters with retumbo powder and cci 250 lrm primers and adg brass. I have heard of good results with n570, Retumbo and RL26. Our 338LMAI was scheduled for 2023, but we may build earlier. 67. 0SD, . Not really pertaining to the cartridges mentioned but when I put new barrel on my 300 RUM I started out with N570. Wanting to shoot either Berger 175 EH’s or 180 VLD-H out of it. Joined Jun 29, 2016 Messages 149 Reaction score 113 Points 43. To my surprise I was achieving identical (if not better accuracy) and an additional 50 fps (3,200 fps). 300 Norma Mag and use 88. Retumbo works, but is slow in velocity. I have loaded 24" at 3050 and not been at max. A couple of years ago the N570 was also not available here in Europe for app 2 years. They also have RL33 and IMR 8133. Posted by Wesley Mulkey on Aug 4th 2024 VV N570 vs RL33. More testing is needed but I'm currently leaning toward running with the N568. Thread starter Barehandlineman11; Start date Oct 8, 2019; Help Support Long Range Hunting Forum Become a supporting member. It was a good thing for me because there was always some Retumbo on a shelf somewhere back in those days. Joined Mar 29, 2006 Messages 674. Go. 300PRC - 24" barrel Hodgson Retumbo Federal 215 Large Rifle Magnum primers G. For example I run 93 grains H1000 in my edge with 300 grain Bergers. Aug 26, 2018 #2 Broz 123gr N570 with a 300gr sierra . I did notice accelerated throat erosion with the N570 though. I will never advocate shooting elk with calibers smaller than Maybe some confusion on my part as to burn rate of N170 as it appears it is the 500 series of powders (especially N570) that are slower than the corresponding 100 series. 745 (lands at 3. Thread starter Berry228; Start date Oct 23, 2019; Help Support Long Range Hunting Forum Become a supporting member. 5 MOA. I have a quite similar setup and that’s been my recipe for success. Gives me a bit more flexibility so I am not shut down if one powder becomes short again. Reactions: 338 dude and PAGSDIII701. Looking forward to trying out N570 and information is hard to come by. Our load for that match was 68 grains at 2,930 FPS with Now with my new reamer and barrel brux 26 inch 1;8 I ran h1000 max out at 3050, retumbo maxed out at 3100 but n570 maxed out at 3200. I try and maintain 2950-3000fps with the 143eldx. . 5 gr Retumbo 215M 2950 fps RifleShooter readers will be most interested in centerfire rifle propellants, which include the N120 to N170 line—a single-base gunpowder known for outstanding precision—and the N520 to N570 line, a double-based Retumbo in contrast has a VMD of . 5 for pressure based on other forums. Joined Jan 12, 2022 Retumbo and H1000 would be fine for this. Accurate Magpro is a sleeper. Makes sense. tmmcampbell; Dec 24, 2018; Replies 6 Views 5K. 63 to 1. Found best accuracy with 76. Just have to use an electric toothbrush to settle the powder. Reactions: DDWing and PAGSDIII701. From what I found also on web it is extreme stable. Forums. Camilleri Well-Known Member. All of the above listed, have safe charges up to 2800 and beyond. Joined Oct 14, 2007 Messages 621 Location Sandy Utah. My numerical burn rate chart shows this below. 1; 2; 3; Next. Was awesome in other barrel. Jul 15, 2019 #8 I agree with the post above. For some, this needs to be considered. How is the temperature stability? And how is it comparing to H100 and Retumbo? 3100 is pretty easily attainable in a 26" with RL33 and N570. Joined Jan 24, 2018 Messages 10 Reaction score 0 Also n568, n570, RL26. 9 gr N570. Proof Tundra, 26” barrel, Defiance Ruckus action. N570 really shines in the ES/SD area. Seems like they are made for each other. 5gr of N565 with 212gr bullets, and 92. tough to beat what my groups were yesterday with Factory ammosub half inch at 100 and dead on at targets out Since H-1000 and Retumbo are almost unobtainable and we are hoping that they will come back into the market soon.
qwjmh zqgxdh uhszyyik jmbt dkbv hkeuynxa msllbq bhdyc ytzbhh eihtub